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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: First time building a water profile Reply with quote

Well, after the Palmer talk I decided to give mineral additions a try. I now understand why some recipes had to be tweaked 2, 3, sometimes 4 times before they came out right. I'm making a Belgian Dubbel today and have added some chalk, calcium carbonate, and baking soda to my mash water in the hopes of getting a malty, delicious brew that is more true to style than what I have come up with in the past. He has a spreadsheet on howtobrew.com where you can figure out your mineral additions based on your water. I'll keep you guys posted on the results.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a reading with a digital ATC ph meter and my mash was at 5.3. Right in range!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nerd! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Did u already have the ph meter?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, we have like 20 of them up here at Worm's Way!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mailed a Murfreesboro water sample to Ward Labs today, hopefully I'll be doing what you are soon. I think Mike is going to try and get Palmer's PowerPoint that we can use as a reference. Most of it is on his website.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProMash has a nice water profile calculator. Whereas the the default database is kinda limited in international profiles, it does allow you to input your local profile and calculate the additions of the six basics water chemicals for brewing to meet the target profile.

Unfortunatley I have a different water filter than the one I used when I sent my sample to Ward Labs.

The six chemicals: gypsum (CaSO4), Epsom Salts (MgSO4), Canning Salt (iodine free table salt: NaCl), Baking soda (NaHCO3), Calcium Chloride (CaCl2) and Chalk (CaCO3).

I dabble in water tweaking a little bit, but for the most part my water is the signature flavor of my beer (laziness may be a factor).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can download the power point spreadsheet off of the how to brew website at the bottom of the RA page.
http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter15-3.html
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am really liking the results of my water additions. My favorite pale ale recipe is better than ever and my mash always hits 5.2 ph. My dubbel turned out pretty damn close to what the Belgians are making. I have made 6 dubbels in the past 2 years and this is by far the closest I have ever come to nailing the style. I can't wait to make some of my dark beer recipes now that I am utilizing Palmer's spreadsheet!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to learn. Let's make this a topic at our January meeting. Can you give a demonstration then?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I want to learn more and revisit what Palmer was saying at the Club Crawl.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, I could give a demonstration. I still feel like a novice, but am at least comfortable using the spreadsheet. The hardest part is figuring out what water profile to shoot for based on style. Traditionally, breweries around the world would use local water, but I imagine most of them are using water adjustments at this point. Water reports don't let you know what minerals a brewery adds or takes out of their water.
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